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An exclusive interview with the editor: Badrawi: The opposition must be listened to… and I will not run for parliament

Badrawi: The opposition must be listened to.. I will not run for parliament
Badrawi: The citizen will feel the fruits of development and the return of economic reform during the coming period.. The development of the education system in Egypt requires 5 main pillars and determinants
Editing: Ahmed Saeed Hassanein January 29, 2019 – 05:10 PM

 

Dr. Hossam Badrawi, the political thinker and former Secretary-General of the former National Party and head of the Union Party, is one of the few who survived the storm of the January 25 revolution and the repercussions and events that followed, due to his stances against Mubarak’s ideas and his regime, and his demand to announce reform decisions prior to the outbreak of the revolution, which some considered It is like a voice that sings outside the flock, to the extent that some have called it “the man of the storm”, and they published a book about him bearing this name. “Al-Tahrir” conducted an interview with “Man of the Storm”, to get acquainted closely with the scenes of the January Revolution, considering him a witness to what happened, in addition to his vision of the new education system
– First, we want to know your vision of the current political scene?

Let us agree that Egypt is currently standing on a new stage, as it is building an infrastructure for what is to come, and what happened during the past 4 years of its expansion and deepening of the infrastructure in order to bear the greatest amount of expected economic growth, and unfortunately some people do not realize the importance of that stage. There are investments that create job opportunities and a wide movement in trade and industry, and to attract the largest percentage of incoming tourists, there should be an infrastructure. Egypt has all the ingredients that qualify it for economic growth. I cited an example here: “I remember when I asked Youssef Boutros Ghali when he was Minister of Finance and the percentage of The economic growth at that time was 7.4%. Why doesn’t the growth rate in Egypt become 10% like China? He said to me: Because the infrastructure in Egypt cannot handle more than that.

– On the occasion of talking about the economic aspect… When will the citizen reap the returns and fruits of the reform plans pursued by the state?

From my point of view, the citizen will undoubtedly feel the fruits of the economic reform plans, as the citizen is currently suffering because of the high prices, which is something that no one can dispute about, but the outcome of the projects and economic reforms that will surely be reflected on the citizen in the coming period, as Egypt almost drifted into the abyss Were it not for the economic decisions taken by the state and reforming the situation, and I see that the reforms that are taking place to support the economy, and I assure that there are 4 main pillars, if they occur in the next 4 years, the state will have a great concern, and they include high quality education and health care, respectable public transportation, and economic aid For young people to start projects, and I want to stress here that President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi did what was his duty, he took an oath to protect the people and the constitution, and his goal was not to protect his popularity, as he strives all the time to advance the state for the benefit of the people and not for himself.

– You said in previous statements to you, “A politician who has no imagination is not a successful politician.” What is the significance of these statements?

Of course, the politician should have an imagination, because he will see what others do not see in front of them. On June 30, the people rose up against the Brotherhood and called out the armed forces. President Sisi came and was elected to protect the people. President Sisi had the same ideas that match the people’s desire at that time. To endorse twice, and take very bold and courageous actions and decisions

– What is your assessment of the new education system announced by the state?

To answer this question, I should stress that reforming the education system in Egypt requires 5 basic pillars, the first of which is providing the elements of availability, quality and justice, and the second pillar is the governance of the administration, which means decentralization, which means that every official in his region is a minister with great powers And the third pillar is the digital element, which means that all parties to the system are digital, and the conscience of its employees is digital, and the entire method and method is digital, and it is not only a tablet or computer that is distributed to students, but the entire process is digital, and the fourth pillar lies in building the personality, Because the goal is not to produce a skilled engineer or doctor, but it is an ISIS in the end, but it needs art and music, and the fifth pillar is competitiveness, meaning that a university graduate graduates to be a job maker.

Personally, I am happy with the element of digital transformation pursued by the state, but the pillars of governance, decentralization and coexistence within the school are still missing, so I demand the necessity of integrating the Ministry of Culture and Information with Education and Higher Education.

– There are challenges facing the state internally in several areas, how do you view them? What are the solutions to overcome these obstacles?

 

There are many main things and determinants that should be emphasized, most notably that there is no absolute freedom. Egypt is the basis of enlightenment and Egypt’s difference from the rest of the Arab countries, but Egypt’s cultural outputs currently are a reflection of the state of society

At the level of health care, the Ministry of Health is mainly responsible for combating disease, treating epidemics and getting rid of endemic diseases. The state should not be the provider of health care services, but rather it is the regulator and sponsor of it, and the health insurance system may be our entry point to that.

On a personal level, I am very happy with the creative ideas in the field of public transport, and I think that the state urgently and urgently needs to get out of the shell of the past, and I stress that most of the creative ideas are from young people, so they need economic support

– You were a close witness behind the scenes of the January 25 Revolution, since you were a former secretary of the dissolved National Party, so what does your memory store about that period?

I saw that there was a real opportunity in that period of constitutional transition in a democratic framework to give citizens their rights, because that period was not economic, but a revolution that talked about justice, rights and dignity, which are the rights of our youth that they talk about all the time, and the former president

Mubarak had only 8 months left for the constitutional transition, which would make Egypt move from one stage to another, benefiting from the positives of an era and avoiding its negatives. It represents the society’s desire for change, and political science says that the largest number of the public should not be kept in one place for 12 consecutive days, unless there is organization and funding, and although there were human emotions for young people, the most organized faction was able to take the case in its favour, but The people succeeded in correcting their mistakes after that, and I say it frankly, Egypt is the only country that succeeded in getting rid of religious rule in the year

And I want to ask here: What if President Mubarak stepped down early and decided to hold early presidential elections after the referendum on the constitution, and Egypt made a constitutional and civilized transition without chaos? What if the National Party men contested the elections before the Brotherhood? What if the president did not hand over power? To the Military Council and proposed elections after 60 days of the constitution?, And what if the presidential elections were held before the parliamentary ones? So I still see that history is made by defining moments and decisive decisions at precise times. And she did not leave the arena empty in front of them, and time proved to me that the shape of the parties is changing. What happened in France in the street took place without parties, so we should not stick to the traditional forms and go to the future, and personally I wish that the United States of America and Britain would not remain in the same supportive position. of political Islam.

– Some see that you have political ambitions in the next stage. What is your comment on this matter?

This is totally incorrect. I have no political ambition or ambition, and the politician should not look for himself, but for his impact on others.

– Finally, will you run for the upcoming parliamentary elections?

No, absolutely, I have no intention of running in the parliamentary elections.