My religious friend said, commenting on the fires that broke out in Turkey, Greece and Italy as a result of heat waves: This is the divine revenge against injustice!!!
I said:
Is there divine revenge for injustice in the world we live in??!!!
I fear God’s inclusion in the equation of worldly rewards and the interpretation of environmental disasters with divine punitive interpretations.
Reply to:
Yes, God is respite and not neglected.
I trust that environmental disasters are a punishment from God.
Look at the far and near history, the city of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all the kings and chiefs who were arrogant and oppressed in the land and slandered, they received earthly punishment and the people who tempted them destroyed their lands and were lost in the parts of the earth expelled….
I said:
But there are reverse models as well, not everyone who is unjust in life receives a worldly punishment.
History is full of them.
The issue is in the opposite philosophy, that is, victory in a sport is a reward from God, or victory is in a war because God helps those who are right.
All things revolve in a relative orbit.
Victory, defeat, creativity and production are linked to effort, work and training, and we should not attribute to God, in my opinion, any evil that occurs in this world, as it may be good and we do not know. My philosophy is that God only creates good.
My question extends: Are epidemics and diseases an injustice to humans or a balance to creation?
Are fires and floods a means of punishment, or are they also a balance that the globe needs…?!
He said sharply and with some anger:
The first time I hear the expression that disasters are necessary for the balance of nature.!!
I said: Earthquakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis are natural phenomena that occur as a result of the movement of the earth’s crust and the earth’s plates beneath it, as a result of their distance or approach to each other, due to pressure from the interactions of the inflamed mass beneath the earth’s crust, or the expansion and contraction of this crust itself, or the expansion of the fiery mass The molten substance under the earth and its pressure on the earth’s crust, causing tremors, fractures and fissures.
Yes ……
It is a balance for the globe, and it is a blessing from the Creator to keep the earth alive, otherwise it will explode with what is in it.
The idea that this is related to human punishment needs to be reconsidered.
He said: God hears and responds and hastens to save the oppressed because he is a just God.
What Erdogan and others have done brings him resentment and the scourge of punishment, and I also see that whoever wants to prevent God’s bounties from the water in Ethiopia to seize it for his people will suffer an unexpected blow, not military, but beyond our expectations and understanding. The idea of controlling the sources of living that God created and painted is a matter that shows a disdain for the Creator.
So we also wait for Heaven’s justice.
A mutual friend commented, “I wonder why, for example, when an earthquake occurs in Japan of more than 6 degrees, it injures a few Japanese, while thousands of Pakistanis die when an earthquake of that magnitude occurs in them?” It is science, preparedness, and prediction, not belief and religiosity.
The strange thing is that some preachers, who hold degrees in science and geology, do not differ in their perceptions from the simplest preachers who have no luck in scientific and geological knowledge! This view justifies the belittling of human scientific achievements, and opens the door to the exploitation of disasters, as a way to attract new religious people who do not understand the laws of the Creator in his creation.
Another friend commented, saying: The world is not a place of punishment, for God says in the Qur’an: “And if God were to take the people to account for what they earned, he would not leave an animal on its back, but He delays them until an appointed time” (Surat Fatir verse 45).
The relationship of hurricanes and storms to the wrath of God is like the relationship of the sweet breezes of air to God’s pleasure. Both hurricanes and gentle breezes affect the good, the bad, and the animals. Was the drought that afflicted the Muslims in the year (Al-Ramada) during the era of Umar ibn Al-Khattab, was it the wrath of God on the Companions and their followers? Does this drought affect certain communities and not others?
In contemplating natural disasters, a person may sense some spiritual meaning, which helps him build a deeper view of life, that understands its pain and suffering, as well as its beauty and splendor. But the cosmic system created by the Creator is not subject to the religious sentiments and concepts of followers of religions. Everyone is subject to one law: “If you are suffering, they are suffering as you are suffering, and you hope from God what they do not hope for” (Surat An-Nisa, verse 105).
It is necessary to rethink the religious discourse of all religions, which reminds us of their beliefs in the Middle Ages and their darkness of disasters.
During the scourge of the Black Plague (the Great Death), which swept across Europe between 1347 and caused the death of at least a third of the continent’s population, the discourse of the Western Church tended to interpret the catastrophe as a divine punishment for sins and sins.
It is the exploitation of the event to achieve a goal.
God did not create the world in vain according to the cosmic system of traditions, but rather to motivate man to search for it and take control of it, to be the Caliph on earth in deed, not just by saying and claiming… This means the necessity of researching the relationship of these disasters to environmental changes, increased pollution, and nuclear radiation, And the damage it leaves behind and work to protect the human being from its consequences.
I smiled and said: We also do not forget the victims and destruction left behind by the dictatorial regimes that are clearly represented by the authoritarian political, religious and worldly regimes, which exceed what is caused by storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, and other than what we call natural disasters.
The assertion that these disasters are a punishment from God for the people of a country or region, is a lack of faith in God’s mercy.
The ability of man to predict the occurrence of disasters and to avoid their evil is now increasing, with the increase in his knowledge of the rules of nature that God placed in his creation. Today, through meteorology, satellite images and data, we can save millions of lives before hurricanes and disasters strike. This represents a moral and human duty, reflecting respect for human life, for which God has made the reward of one of them who saves a soul, as the reward of those who save all people.
My other friend said: Some try to give themselves a knife that the unjust will
I said:
Is there divine revenge for injustice in the world we live in??!!!
I fear God’s inclusion in the equation of worldly rewards and the interpretation of environmental disasters with divine punitive interpretations.
Reply to:
Yes, God is respite and not neglected.
I trust that environmental disasters are a punishment from God.
Look at the far and near history, the city of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all the kings and chiefs who were arrogant and oppressed in the land and slandered, they received earthly punishment and the people who tempted them destroyed their lands and were lost in the parts of the earth expelled….
I said:
But there are reverse models as well, not everyone who is unjust in life receives a worldly punishment.
History is full of them.
The issue is in the opposite philosophy, that is, victory in a sport is a reward from God, or victory is in a war because God helps those who are right.
All things revolve in a relative orbit.
Victory, defeat, creativity and production are linked to effort, work and training, and we should not attribute to God, in my opinion, any evil that occurs in this world, as it may be good and we do not know. My philosophy is that God only creates good.
My question extends: Are epidemics and diseases an injustice to humans or a balance to creation?
Are fires and floods a means of punishment, or are they also a balance that the globe needs…?!
He said sharply and with some anger:
The first time I hear the expression that disasters are necessary for the balance of nature.!!
I said: Earthquakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis are natural phenomena that occur as a result of the movement of the earth’s crust and the earth’s plates beneath it, as a result of their distance or approach to each other, due to pressure from the interactions of the inflamed mass beneath the earth’s crust, or the expansion and contraction of this crust itself, or the expansion of the fiery mass The molten substance under the earth and its pressure on the earth’s crust, causing tremors, fractures and fissures.
Yes ……
It is a balance for the globe, and it is a blessing from the Creator to keep the earth alive, otherwise it will explode with what is in it.
The idea that this is related to human punishment needs to be reconsidered.
He said: God hears and responds and hastens to save the oppressed because he is a just God.
What Erdogan and others have done brings him resentment and the scourge of punishment, and I also see that whoever wants to prevent God’s bounties from the water in Ethiopia to seize it for his people will suffer an unexpected blow, not military, but beyond our expectations and understanding. The idea of controlling the sources of living that God created and painted is a matter that shows a disdain for the Creator.
So we also wait for Heaven’s justice.
A mutual friend commented, “I wonder why, for example, when an earthquake occurs in Japan of more than 6 degrees, it injures a few Japanese, while thousands of Pakistanis die when an earthquake of that magnitude occurs in them?” It is science, preparedness, and prediction, not belief and religiosity.
The strange thing is that some preachers, who hold degrees in science and geology, do not differ in their perceptions from the simplest preachers who have no luck in scientific and geological knowledge! This view justifies the belittling of human scientific achievements, and opens the door to the exploitation of disasters, as a way to attract new religious people who do not understand the laws of the Creator in his creation.
Another friend commented, saying: The world is not a place of punishment, for God says in the Qur’an: “And if God were to take the people to account for what they earned, he would not leave an animal on its back, but He delays them until an appointed time” (Surat Fatir verse 45).
The relationship of hurricanes and storms to the wrath of God is like the relationship of the sweet breezes of air to God’s pleasure. Both hurricanes and gentle breezes affect the good, the bad, and the animals. Was the drought that afflicted the Muslims in the year (Al-Ramada) during the era of Umar ibn Al-Khattab, was it the wrath of God on the Companions and their followers? Does this drought affect certain communities and not others?
In contemplating natural disasters, a person may sense some spiritual meaning, which helps him build a deeper view of life, that understands its pain and suffering, as well as its beauty and splendor. But the cosmic system created by the Creator is not subject to the religious sentiments and concepts of followers of religions. Everyone is subject to one law: “If you are suffering, they are suffering as you are suffering, and you hope from God what they do not hope for” (Surat An-Nisa, verse 105).
It is necessary to rethink the religious discourse of all religions, which reminds us of their beliefs in the Middle Ages and their darkness of disasters.
During the scourge of the Black Plague (the Great Death), which swept across Europe between 1347 and caused the death of at least a third of the continent’s population, the discourse of the Western Church tended to interpret the catastrophe as a divine punishment for sins and sins.
It is the exploitation of the event to achieve a goal.
God did not create the world in vain according to the cosmic system of traditions, but rather to motivate man to search for it and take control of it, to be the Caliph on earth in deed, not just by saying and claiming… This means the necessity of researching the relationship of these disasters to environmental changes, increased pollution, and nuclear radiation, And the damage it leaves behind and work to protect the human being from its consequences.
I smiled and said: We also do not forget the victims and destruction left behind by the dictatorial regimes that are clearly represented by the authoritarian political, religious and worldly regimes, which exceed what is caused by storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, and other than what we call natural disasters.
The assertion that these disasters are a punishment from God for the people of a country or region, is a lack of faith in God’s mercy.
The ability of man to predict the occurrence of disasters and to avoid their evil is now increasing, with the increase in his knowledge of the rules of nature that God placed in his creation. Today, through meteorology, satellite images and data, we can save millions of lives before hurricanes and disasters strike. This represents a moral and human duty, reflecting respect for human life, for which God has made the reward of one of them who saves a soul, as the reward of those who save all people.
My other friend said: Some try to give themselves a knife that the unjust will
He receives his punishment, which is a benign approach, but he is dependent and superficial.
She commented: Returning to enlightenment and the belief that God created us a mind to use, it was the Lisbon earthquake that prompted Voltaire to think that if we suppose that natural disasters are deliberately done by God, we will face the problem of evil, for the destruction and number of victims resulting from natural disasters is evil. Pure, which takes the lives of millions without their guilt is equivalent to what happened to them, as it completely destroys the environment, and corrupts everything that man has built in it, such as cities, agriculture and civilization, where the human effort in building them goes to nothing, and this is what Voltaire calls pure evil, and to avoid a problematic Inflicting pure evil on God, Voltaire preferred to separate natural disasters from God’s will and to inflict them on nature alone.
The Enlightenment was the age of the doctrine that carried a philosophical and rational conception of God, in contrast to the traditional theological conceptions, which turned out to be useless in explaining natural disasters such as the Lisbon earthquake.
The mind is not satisfied except by perceiving nature as independent by itself, according to the laws that God set in it, for God only creates a complete world, and the perfect world is completely independent by itself, and it moves according to its own laws. But if we imagine the world as in need of continuous divine intervention, This means that it is an imperfect world. According to this thinking, the order of nature is the will of God itself, and God cannot deviate from His will, to prove a momentary view of time.
The laws of nature that do not differentiate between the oppressor and the oppressed, God has left them behind and made them work automatically, so they do not differentiate between one belief and another, a believer and an unbeliever.
Natural divine physics, including the formation of the human mind and the diversity of its activities, which enables it to contemplate the laws of the universe, research and invention, anticipate mutations and surprises, and adjust equations according to a series of experiments and observations…is the interpretation.
She commented: Returning to enlightenment and the belief that God created us a mind to use, it was the Lisbon earthquake that prompted Voltaire to think that if we suppose that natural disasters are deliberately done by God, we will face the problem of evil, for the destruction and number of victims resulting from natural disasters is evil. Pure, which takes the lives of millions without their guilt is equivalent to what happened to them, as it completely destroys the environment, and corrupts everything that man has built in it, such as cities, agriculture and civilization, where the human effort in building them goes to nothing, and this is what Voltaire calls pure evil, and to avoid a problematic Inflicting pure evil on God, Voltaire preferred to separate natural disasters from God’s will and to inflict them on nature alone.
The Enlightenment was the age of the doctrine that carried a philosophical and rational conception of God, in contrast to the traditional theological conceptions, which turned out to be useless in explaining natural disasters such as the Lisbon earthquake.
The mind is not satisfied except by perceiving nature as independent by itself, according to the laws that God set in it, for God only creates a complete world, and the perfect world is completely independent by itself, and it moves according to its own laws. But if we imagine the world as in need of continuous divine intervention, This means that it is an imperfect world. According to this thinking, the order of nature is the will of God itself, and God cannot deviate from His will, to prove a momentary view of time.
The laws of nature that do not differentiate between the oppressor and the oppressed, God has left them behind and made them work automatically, so they do not differentiate between one belief and another, a believer and an unbeliever.
Natural divine physics, including the formation of the human mind and the diversity of its activities, which enables it to contemplate the laws of the universe, research and invention, anticipate mutations and surprises, and adjust equations according to a series of experiments and observations…is the interpretation.